Amanda Luttrell-Garrigus
December 2007
As seen on E! Network's "The Daily 10" and various entertainment programs, Amanda Luttrell-Garrigus is a fashion and style expert who shares her story with WaldenPonders!
Let's start by having you introduce yourself.
Well, my full name is Amanda Upendo Luttrell-Garrigus, which is a mouthful. I gotta say though, I love the long names. I was born in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and I lived there 'til I was four-years-old. My father is American, and my mom is Tanzanian - ebony-skinned, Tanzanian mommy and a very fair, blonde, blue-eyed daddy. We moved to Toronto when I was four, and I grew up in Toronto and went to college there, and then I moved here about...oh gosh how long was it? Nine years ago, now.
What did you study in college?
I went to the University of Toronto, and I studied environmental sciences (laughs). Initially as part of my undergraduate studies, I majored - I specialized, actually - in environmental sciences with a minor in political science, international relations, specifically. And literally the week before I was set to graduate I just thought - my intention was to be an environmental lawyer (laughs) - and upon graduation, I just thought, "God this is so depressing." I just did not want to spend my life doing that, and I just didn't...I soul-searched, and I thought, "What do I love? What do I love?” Fashion magazines. So I studied [magazine] journalism post-graduately (sic) at Ryerson University, also in Toronto, and immediately got an internship at Flair Magazine and worked in their beauty department, and that was it.
What, in your opinion, is style?
Nice question! (laughs) Oh my gosh....style comes from confidence, and it certainly requires an eye to putting things together and the mixing of textures and colors and shapes. So it certainly requires a certain artistic intelligence. I often say it's just confidence, but it's not just confidence, because in order to have style, you really have to have also a self-awareness about what looks good on your body. It's certainly not about following trends, although I talk about trends all the time. You really should pick and choose the trends that work for you, and if none of them do, then you know, you're not trendy this season. And that's, to me, a style.
How did you transition your beginnings in writing and editing in journalism to becoming an on-air correspondent?
Well, they're very similar, and I do still write. I started my career, as I mentioned, at Flair Magazine, and in the last several years, they asked me to come back as their Los Angeles correspondent, so I still work for them doing that. I write their cover features and so quite regularly, I sit down with various celebrities and interview them for the written piece. Then, I worked as the editor-in-chief of Angeleno Magazine for many years. When you put together an article for a magazine, whether you're doing that, or you're putting together a segment for television, you're doing the same leg work...you're doing the same research. So the two are very similar, and I've always, for myself, imagined that I wanted to do broadcast journalism, and so when an opportunity arose to test the waters there...it felt very natural. So I employed the skills that I've used for the past 10 years in my career as a magazine writer, journalist, and editor, which I'm still doing, onto the segments that I do [at E! Networks].
And is it true that you were at one time a celebrity stylist?
(Laughs) Oh my god. I love it - digging for the dirt! Yes, I was. When I first moved to Los Angeles, I had come from a job, I was the fashion associate editor at Fashion Magazine in Toronto. It's very much like Harper's Bazaar. I moved here, and I thought I might want to reinvent myself and, as the fashion associate editor, I'd styled all the photo shoots up there, so I had quite a facility for doing that kind of work. Then when you come to LA, it's all about celebrities, and there's just not that much editorial work. It was an eye-opener for me, so I necessarily fell into the celebrity game, and I worked with Mariah Carey. It was the most incredible and ridiculous and educational experience, and I learned very quickly that I did not want to be a celebrity stylist. (Laughs)
Why was that?
It depends on who you work with. A good friend of mine is Cate Blanchett's stylist, and she loves her job, and Cate is a very smart, well-spoken, confident woman who understands style and gets it. But if you're working with someone who doesn't get it, then it can be so...disheartening. I remember I had this Versace dress that I was made to cut in half. It was beautiful, well-constructed, and then I had to...make it this insanely short mini-skirt and tube top, and it was just so disheartening. I found that there was so much cow-towing and a lot of telling people they look beautiful, you know? It wasn't about the style, and it wasn't about fashion as much as it was...ego-stroking.
Speaking of celebrity, what is your perception of Hollywood culture today?
I think it's sick, quite frankly. I think it's over-saturated, and there's way too much attention focused on celebrity. I mean, listen, I get starstruck. There are people that I just...get googly around. (laughs) You know, I mean when you see someone's face on television, and then you're confronted with them or whatever it is, it's the culture of celebrity. I think it's just gotten such that we have lost touch with reality. W Magazine recently had...their art issue celebrity covers...they had Julia Roberts on one and Jessica Simpson on another, and it was this crazy thing because the photos are not retouched! And you look at these people and you think...for a moment my heart fell, like I was crestfallen that they weren't as flawless as they're always depicted to be. But the truth is they're beautiful regardless, and people just need to just stop attacking. It's just like the general population of wherever feels this entitlement, this sense of "I can tear people down from my couch," and it is not easy to do what these people do. It should be about their skill and their talent and not so much about what they wear on a red carpet, even though that's what I talk about.
Do you have any particular fashion icons or celebrities that you admire?
There are celebrities that I admire, and then there are people whose style I admire, and sometimes the two overlap, but not always. I think Cate Blanchett is wonderful as an actress, and I love her sense of style. I think Tilda Swinton is incredible [and] has an incredible sense of style - love that she wears Viktor & Rolf, far under-utilized designers in Hollywood, but you know, their aesthetic just doesn't make sense for Hollywood, I guess. I met Leonardo DiCaprio. I loved him, he was great. I love Tom Hanks! He's so charismatic and so larger than life. He's just like...to me he has just accomplished so much in his career, and he has a fantastic energy, and he's incredible. And then of course, you know, looking back in history - Faye Dunaway, Audrey Hepburn, all the people that you think of...Grace Kelly in a lot of her films when she worked with Edith Head. It's harder to find contemporary examples of style or women with style, because it's so commercialized, and so much about marketing now.
How would you describe your own personal style? Do you have favorite designers?
You know, since working on ["The Daily 10"] my style has changed quite a bit, quite frankly. I find that I modify it for the E! Network market, which is specific. I would normally characterize my style as classic but fashion forward. I like trends, but I like to incorporate them into more classic looks. I don't like to just be trendy head-to-toe. So yeah, so I think, I think I'm more sophisticated than cutting edge.
So would you say you're more of a girly-girl in terms of Glam Squad, or like, jeans/t-shirts? When you're not in front of the camera?
(Laughs). Well I'm a mom [of daughter Sophie], so I do have jeans and t-shirts. But I don't..my jeans are, you know, very designed, and I'm not wearing Levi's and when I wear a t-shirt, I like to wear a t-shirt with some interest. You know, that has an interesting sleeve or it's asymmetrical or there's something about it. I don't think I'm a girly-girl. I think I'm more of a woman (laughs). I like things that are feminine. But I like things that have a little bit of a masculine edge too, in women's wear.
You said you're a mom, so how do you balance your family life with jet-setting around and covering all these fashion events.
(Laughs). It's not a lot of sitting around, I have to say. It's a lot of running your errrr off! It's hard to balance the two, and I was talking to my sister today who's an actress and has just been nominated for a People's Choice Award, very proud of her, and she's got a new baby who's 7 weeks old and we were talking about my..when I started out in my career I was so, you know, I would crawl my way...I wouldn't hurt people, but I had so much fire in my belly and I would do whatever and I would work the 20 hour days. And then I arrived in a certain place in my career where I was able to breathe a little bit and then I had a little girl and it's really hard. And they become your priority, they just do. You just can't help that. And so I feel like I have found a balance though between working on the Daily 10 and the schedule is not that intense for me, you know I have the segment every Monday and then my writing responsibilities for Flair. I have managed to find a nice balance, but I'm not working an 80 hour week. Although I do, when she goes to bed, get off the computer.
How old is she?
Sophie's five. She's not so little! I'm in the throes of researching elementary schools for her which is just making me crazy! Oh my god, in LA, I mean I'm fighting for a spot with Forrest Whittaker, it's just like what? I know you won an Oscar but my daughter! He's actually a great guy, but this is Hollywood.
So, being that you work on the Daily 10, this is my staple for everyone who's specific to the show. If you had to list the 10 things that are essential to your day, your daily 10, what would they be?
Ten things. Well the first ones would be eating enough, getting enough sleep, I don't think I actually accomplish these but they're very important, basic. Drinking enough water, exercising. If I don't do those first four basic things, I go crazy. If I don't eat, I spiral, you know, all of it, it's just not good, so those four basic things. Then, you know, everything else isn't as important, quite frankly. Nothing else is all that important. I take care of myself first, and then I look after my little girl. And I make sure she has all those things. I gotta husband so I gotta look after him (laughs). I gotta make sure I look in his eyes at least once a day and communicate. You'd be surprised how days can go by and we don't actually look at each other. I love him. He works, he's a Hollywood...he's a writer/producer. So what's that? I think I'm up to six. You know, just having self respect when I get dressed, because it's so easy as a mom just to throw crap on and run out the door and eat junk. Keeping perspective with all this celebrity saturated culture and you go through in your day-you know, like 'Oh shit why didn't get invited to that party?' and 'Oh shit I've been invited to too many parties!' And you know everything's bad, it's just bad either way. It's like 'I can't go to the mall' and 'what do you mean I didn't get that one?!' So keeping perspective is really important, remembering that family is home and home is where the heart is and where your heart is is where you've gotta nurture and take care of yourself. I know this all sounding really yogic but that's what...I mean...I don't know, I mean really those basic things I try to keep as my foundations. Looking after my health and my family and keeping focused on that's the most important thing, and then I work on my career, and I try to keep myself...focused on professionalism and pushing the envelope, and meeting new people and being open to everyone, whether they're super hot like Leonardo or like my dog who I have to get to the vet. She's limping and I don't know why (laughs).
So, just more basic stuff, what's on your iPod right now? What are you listening to?
You know, I don't really...I have an iPhone and so I have an iPod, but I don't really...I listen to KCRW all the time and I just listen to whatever they've got playing. And I'm just, I mean I studied music, I studied piano for 12 years and I studied voice for as many years, I played the violin and I love to sing and music is important to me, but I'm not...I don't really buy music, I don't really get into it. It's always playing in the background of my life. In the morning it's the classical station, KUSC, and I listen to, you know, Vivaldi. And then, when I'm driving here it's any old, in the morning it's, morning becomes eclectic. I love Sigur Ros, you know, he's fantastic. My husband and I went to a Wilco concert, you know. So I really don't...I mean on my iPod I've been listening to Chet Baker a lot recently.
So what do you do when you're not so busy working and taking care of little Sophie? What do you like to do for fun?
Oh God, I sleep. (Laughs). I like to sleep for fun. I really, I literally...whenever I'm not with Sophie, I'm working. I really am. I sit down and I take all that spare time. But I, I love to hike. That's my...I go up to Running Canyon in Hollywood and I take my dog and I hike, that's really what I love to do. And then, I love date night, I live for Saturday night. My husband and I try a new restaurant every Saturday. So yeah, I love to go out to eat, I love to try new restaurants and new chefs and you know, sort of experience that. And I do love movies. I do love love love movies and I just never get to see enough of them.
Any classic favorites?
I just watched Shampoo again. I mean, that's just a great film.
If you had to summarize, like, your entire life, and this can be a current question or it could be be, you know, projected in the future, what would you say is your life's number one story?
What do you mean by number one story?
If you, almost like an autobiographical title, if you had a book and you had to list your top ten, you know, lifetime moments or whatever, how would you kind of quantify...think of it as what you would title your autobiography kinda thing.
That's a good question, that's a tough question. I don't know, I feel like..what would I title my...The Metamorphosis, maybe. That's a tough one, because for me, the quintessential moments in my life always revolve around family. The birth of my daughter was it for me, I became an entirely different person when she came into my life and you've probably heard it a thousand times before and I did before I had kids and I was like 'Oh for the love of God talk about the movies! You know, or don't talk about family! Talk about the celebrities you've met!' But the truth is, having Sophie changed my life, it changed me and how I approach the world and it really was, for me, a metamorphosis and since then it's like I see the world through a different lens. And I don't know, I'm still writing my story and honestly, I cannot...I don't know where I'm gonna be at the end, the end of days (laughs). I..I don't know. I don't know. But right now, I think that's where I would say...
So do you have any ideas for, like, your ultimate career goals, is there anything in mind that...?
Yeah I mean, I like..I love what I'm doing. I love the niche that I've found and at this point in my life it's great, but I would love to make more of it. You know, I think that the Next Level segment could be its own show. The Next Level could be the next level, I really do. And I think there's a really wonderful seed of an idea in that two minute segment that could... there's just so much. I mean, there's just really a lot. And I would love to...I'd love for there to be a program- which I'm working on- that incorporated the real thing about fashion that I love which is the artistry and the people who make it happen, the designers, and then combines that fun, lighthearted celebrity element- because I love it, you know, I go to People.com, I'm not immune to it. I maybe sound like I think I'm above it and I don't, I mean, you know. So as a next step, that would be wonderful. The Next Level as a broader thing. And then long term goals, you know, see where that goes. I wouldn't mind being Oprah. The fashion Oprah. I'm probably the only one in the world who aspires to be like Oprah (laughs). I know I'm being facetious, but yeah, and just, buy a few more houses around the world. And then give back. Just yeah, I just think, for me, I'm successful if I can expand as a person and learn more and grow and just be open and...to...to new experiences cause my life has so much been about a door opens that I haven't looked that way and it's like 'yeah ok, I'll walk through that door!' and then a whole 'nother thing has happened for me so... So you know, all possibilities. I might act in my husband's (Tom Garrigus) film, it's to be determined.
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Let's start by having you introduce yourself.
Well, my full name is Amanda Upendo Luttrell-Garrigus, which is a mouthful. I gotta say though, I love the long names. I was born in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and I lived there 'til I was four-years-old. My father is American, and my mom is Tanzanian - ebony-skinned, Tanzanian mommy and a very fair, blonde, blue-eyed daddy. We moved to Toronto when I was four, and I grew up in Toronto and went to college there, and then I moved here about...oh gosh how long was it? Nine years ago, now.
What did you study in college?
I went to the University of Toronto, and I studied environmental sciences (laughs). Initially as part of my undergraduate studies, I majored - I specialized, actually - in environmental sciences with a minor in political science, international relations, specifically. And literally the week before I was set to graduate I just thought - my intention was to be an environmental lawyer (laughs) - and upon graduation, I just thought, "God this is so depressing." I just did not want to spend my life doing that, and I just didn't...I soul-searched, and I thought, "What do I love? What do I love?” Fashion magazines. So I studied [magazine] journalism post-graduately (sic) at Ryerson University, also in Toronto, and immediately got an internship at Flair Magazine and worked in their beauty department, and that was it.
What, in your opinion, is style?
Nice question! (laughs) Oh my gosh....style comes from confidence, and it certainly requires an eye to putting things together and the mixing of textures and colors and shapes. So it certainly requires a certain artistic intelligence. I often say it's just confidence, but it's not just confidence, because in order to have style, you really have to have also a self-awareness about what looks good on your body. It's certainly not about following trends, although I talk about trends all the time. You really should pick and choose the trends that work for you, and if none of them do, then you know, you're not trendy this season. And that's, to me, a style.
How did you transition your beginnings in writing and editing in journalism to becoming an on-air correspondent?
Well, they're very similar, and I do still write. I started my career, as I mentioned, at Flair Magazine, and in the last several years, they asked me to come back as their Los Angeles correspondent, so I still work for them doing that. I write their cover features and so quite regularly, I sit down with various celebrities and interview them for the written piece. Then, I worked as the editor-in-chief of Angeleno Magazine for many years. When you put together an article for a magazine, whether you're doing that, or you're putting together a segment for television, you're doing the same leg work...you're doing the same research. So the two are very similar, and I've always, for myself, imagined that I wanted to do broadcast journalism, and so when an opportunity arose to test the waters there...it felt very natural. So I employed the skills that I've used for the past 10 years in my career as a magazine writer, journalist, and editor, which I'm still doing, onto the segments that I do [at E! Networks].
And is it true that you were at one time a celebrity stylist?
(Laughs) Oh my god. I love it - digging for the dirt! Yes, I was. When I first moved to Los Angeles, I had come from a job, I was the fashion associate editor at Fashion Magazine in Toronto. It's very much like Harper's Bazaar. I moved here, and I thought I might want to reinvent myself and, as the fashion associate editor, I'd styled all the photo shoots up there, so I had quite a facility for doing that kind of work. Then when you come to LA, it's all about celebrities, and there's just not that much editorial work. It was an eye-opener for me, so I necessarily fell into the celebrity game, and I worked with Mariah Carey. It was the most incredible and ridiculous and educational experience, and I learned very quickly that I did not want to be a celebrity stylist. (Laughs)
Why was that?
It depends on who you work with. A good friend of mine is Cate Blanchett's stylist, and she loves her job, and Cate is a very smart, well-spoken, confident woman who understands style and gets it. But if you're working with someone who doesn't get it, then it can be so...disheartening. I remember I had this Versace dress that I was made to cut in half. It was beautiful, well-constructed, and then I had to...make it this insanely short mini-skirt and tube top, and it was just so disheartening. I found that there was so much cow-towing and a lot of telling people they look beautiful, you know? It wasn't about the style, and it wasn't about fashion as much as it was...ego-stroking.
Speaking of celebrity, what is your perception of Hollywood culture today?
I think it's sick, quite frankly. I think it's over-saturated, and there's way too much attention focused on celebrity. I mean, listen, I get starstruck. There are people that I just...get googly around. (laughs) You know, I mean when you see someone's face on television, and then you're confronted with them or whatever it is, it's the culture of celebrity. I think it's just gotten such that we have lost touch with reality. W Magazine recently had...their art issue celebrity covers...they had Julia Roberts on one and Jessica Simpson on another, and it was this crazy thing because the photos are not retouched! And you look at these people and you think...for a moment my heart fell, like I was crestfallen that they weren't as flawless as they're always depicted to be. But the truth is they're beautiful regardless, and people just need to just stop attacking. It's just like the general population of wherever feels this entitlement, this sense of "I can tear people down from my couch," and it is not easy to do what these people do. It should be about their skill and their talent and not so much about what they wear on a red carpet, even though that's what I talk about.
Do you have any particular fashion icons or celebrities that you admire?
There are celebrities that I admire, and then there are people whose style I admire, and sometimes the two overlap, but not always. I think Cate Blanchett is wonderful as an actress, and I love her sense of style. I think Tilda Swinton is incredible [and] has an incredible sense of style - love that she wears Viktor & Rolf, far under-utilized designers in Hollywood, but you know, their aesthetic just doesn't make sense for Hollywood, I guess. I met Leonardo DiCaprio. I loved him, he was great. I love Tom Hanks! He's so charismatic and so larger than life. He's just like...to me he has just accomplished so much in his career, and he has a fantastic energy, and he's incredible. And then of course, you know, looking back in history - Faye Dunaway, Audrey Hepburn, all the people that you think of...Grace Kelly in a lot of her films when she worked with Edith Head. It's harder to find contemporary examples of style or women with style, because it's so commercialized, and so much about marketing now.
How would you describe your own personal style? Do you have favorite designers?
You know, since working on ["The Daily 10"] my style has changed quite a bit, quite frankly. I find that I modify it for the E! Network market, which is specific. I would normally characterize my style as classic but fashion forward. I like trends, but I like to incorporate them into more classic looks. I don't like to just be trendy head-to-toe. So yeah, so I think, I think I'm more sophisticated than cutting edge.
So would you say you're more of a girly-girl in terms of Glam Squad, or like, jeans/t-shirts? When you're not in front of the camera?
(Laughs). Well I'm a mom [of daughter Sophie], so I do have jeans and t-shirts. But I don't..my jeans are, you know, very designed, and I'm not wearing Levi's and when I wear a t-shirt, I like to wear a t-shirt with some interest. You know, that has an interesting sleeve or it's asymmetrical or there's something about it. I don't think I'm a girly-girl. I think I'm more of a woman (laughs). I like things that are feminine. But I like things that have a little bit of a masculine edge too, in women's wear.
You said you're a mom, so how do you balance your family life with jet-setting around and covering all these fashion events.
(Laughs). It's not a lot of sitting around, I have to say. It's a lot of running your errrr off! It's hard to balance the two, and I was talking to my sister today who's an actress and has just been nominated for a People's Choice Award, very proud of her, and she's got a new baby who's 7 weeks old and we were talking about my..when I started out in my career I was so, you know, I would crawl my way...I wouldn't hurt people, but I had so much fire in my belly and I would do whatever and I would work the 20 hour days. And then I arrived in a certain place in my career where I was able to breathe a little bit and then I had a little girl and it's really hard. And they become your priority, they just do. You just can't help that. And so I feel like I have found a balance though between working on the Daily 10 and the schedule is not that intense for me, you know I have the segment every Monday and then my writing responsibilities for Flair. I have managed to find a nice balance, but I'm not working an 80 hour week. Although I do, when she goes to bed, get off the computer.
How old is she?
Sophie's five. She's not so little! I'm in the throes of researching elementary schools for her which is just making me crazy! Oh my god, in LA, I mean I'm fighting for a spot with Forrest Whittaker, it's just like what? I know you won an Oscar but my daughter! He's actually a great guy, but this is Hollywood.
So, being that you work on the Daily 10, this is my staple for everyone who's specific to the show. If you had to list the 10 things that are essential to your day, your daily 10, what would they be?
Ten things. Well the first ones would be eating enough, getting enough sleep, I don't think I actually accomplish these but they're very important, basic. Drinking enough water, exercising. If I don't do those first four basic things, I go crazy. If I don't eat, I spiral, you know, all of it, it's just not good, so those four basic things. Then, you know, everything else isn't as important, quite frankly. Nothing else is all that important. I take care of myself first, and then I look after my little girl. And I make sure she has all those things. I gotta husband so I gotta look after him (laughs). I gotta make sure I look in his eyes at least once a day and communicate. You'd be surprised how days can go by and we don't actually look at each other. I love him. He works, he's a Hollywood...he's a writer/producer. So what's that? I think I'm up to six. You know, just having self respect when I get dressed, because it's so easy as a mom just to throw crap on and run out the door and eat junk. Keeping perspective with all this celebrity saturated culture and you go through in your day-you know, like 'Oh shit why didn't get invited to that party?' and 'Oh shit I've been invited to too many parties!' And you know everything's bad, it's just bad either way. It's like 'I can't go to the mall' and 'what do you mean I didn't get that one?!' So keeping perspective is really important, remembering that family is home and home is where the heart is and where your heart is is where you've gotta nurture and take care of yourself. I know this all sounding really yogic but that's what...I mean...I don't know, I mean really those basic things I try to keep as my foundations. Looking after my health and my family and keeping focused on that's the most important thing, and then I work on my career, and I try to keep myself...focused on professionalism and pushing the envelope, and meeting new people and being open to everyone, whether they're super hot like Leonardo or like my dog who I have to get to the vet. She's limping and I don't know why (laughs).
So, just more basic stuff, what's on your iPod right now? What are you listening to?
You know, I don't really...I have an iPhone and so I have an iPod, but I don't really...I listen to KCRW all the time and I just listen to whatever they've got playing. And I'm just, I mean I studied music, I studied piano for 12 years and I studied voice for as many years, I played the violin and I love to sing and music is important to me, but I'm not...I don't really buy music, I don't really get into it. It's always playing in the background of my life. In the morning it's the classical station, KUSC, and I listen to, you know, Vivaldi. And then, when I'm driving here it's any old, in the morning it's, morning becomes eclectic. I love Sigur Ros, you know, he's fantastic. My husband and I went to a Wilco concert, you know. So I really don't...I mean on my iPod I've been listening to Chet Baker a lot recently.
So what do you do when you're not so busy working and taking care of little Sophie? What do you like to do for fun?
Oh God, I sleep. (Laughs). I like to sleep for fun. I really, I literally...whenever I'm not with Sophie, I'm working. I really am. I sit down and I take all that spare time. But I, I love to hike. That's my...I go up to Running Canyon in Hollywood and I take my dog and I hike, that's really what I love to do. And then, I love date night, I live for Saturday night. My husband and I try a new restaurant every Saturday. So yeah, I love to go out to eat, I love to try new restaurants and new chefs and you know, sort of experience that. And I do love movies. I do love love love movies and I just never get to see enough of them.
Any classic favorites?
I just watched Shampoo again. I mean, that's just a great film.
If you had to summarize, like, your entire life, and this can be a current question or it could be be, you know, projected in the future, what would you say is your life's number one story?
What do you mean by number one story?
If you, almost like an autobiographical title, if you had a book and you had to list your top ten, you know, lifetime moments or whatever, how would you kind of quantify...think of it as what you would title your autobiography kinda thing.
That's a good question, that's a tough question. I don't know, I feel like..what would I title my...The Metamorphosis, maybe. That's a tough one, because for me, the quintessential moments in my life always revolve around family. The birth of my daughter was it for me, I became an entirely different person when she came into my life and you've probably heard it a thousand times before and I did before I had kids and I was like 'Oh for the love of God talk about the movies! You know, or don't talk about family! Talk about the celebrities you've met!' But the truth is, having Sophie changed my life, it changed me and how I approach the world and it really was, for me, a metamorphosis and since then it's like I see the world through a different lens. And I don't know, I'm still writing my story and honestly, I cannot...I don't know where I'm gonna be at the end, the end of days (laughs). I..I don't know. I don't know. But right now, I think that's where I would say...
So do you have any ideas for, like, your ultimate career goals, is there anything in mind that...?
Yeah I mean, I like..I love what I'm doing. I love the niche that I've found and at this point in my life it's great, but I would love to make more of it. You know, I think that the Next Level segment could be its own show. The Next Level could be the next level, I really do. And I think there's a really wonderful seed of an idea in that two minute segment that could... there's just so much. I mean, there's just really a lot. And I would love to...I'd love for there to be a program- which I'm working on- that incorporated the real thing about fashion that I love which is the artistry and the people who make it happen, the designers, and then combines that fun, lighthearted celebrity element- because I love it, you know, I go to People.com, I'm not immune to it. I maybe sound like I think I'm above it and I don't, I mean, you know. So as a next step, that would be wonderful. The Next Level as a broader thing. And then long term goals, you know, see where that goes. I wouldn't mind being Oprah. The fashion Oprah. I'm probably the only one in the world who aspires to be like Oprah (laughs). I know I'm being facetious, but yeah, and just, buy a few more houses around the world. And then give back. Just yeah, I just think, for me, I'm successful if I can expand as a person and learn more and grow and just be open and...to...to new experiences cause my life has so much been about a door opens that I haven't looked that way and it's like 'yeah ok, I'll walk through that door!' and then a whole 'nother thing has happened for me so... So you know, all possibilities. I might act in my husband's (Tom Garrigus) film, it's to be determined.
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